Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran | or solent rig to my for versatile of sail plan. I would be interested in hearing from owners who have added one or the other, and what were the costs and hassles involved. | 07-08-2019, 00:22 | | | . Just a matter of stringing up the extra stay. Do you plan as well or hank on? Do you have a way to run the ? | 07-08-2019, 02:06 | | Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar | , with the cutter there usually. is. with the Solent, tacking the foresail usually requires rolling it up. With a cutter it will usually slide through, especially if the staysail is set With a true cutter, the is a bit further aft and the main a bit smaller. When you simply add an inner forestay to a sloop, the foretriangle gets a little crowded IMO, and the advantages of the dual foresails is dimmed a bit. All in all, I've been happy with our Solent rig, but it was designed as such from the start, and she is fractional which kinda changes the odds a bit. We've done a lot of miles with it and find it satisfactory. Jim | | | 07-08-2019, 03:30 | | Boat: Morgan 44 CC | and I would go quite a distance to avoid those - they always get in the way. As far as versatility goes, the Solent rig, if both headstays are on furlers, allows a 135% on the main headstay with a perhaps 100% heavy duty on the secondary stay. This gives space for a (third) baby stay to use for a hank-on . With this setup one can manage just about any . A cutter rig leaves a shortage of space for another stay for a hank-on (a mandatory requirement for Cat 1 in NZ) unless the second (inner) is hank-on which in my experience is quite rare. That said, having to roll in the front jib every time I tack is a total downer. I guess it’s acceptable to normally sail using the 2nd jib and use the front for long distance sailing where tacking is less frequent. Having a badly disturbed air flow onto the second jib is just a smidgeon less frustrating. Hence I still have a sloop (with a baby stay for the storm jib). | | | 07-08-2019, 06:45 | | Boat: Island Packet 38 | sail driven . But Im no real experienced sailor, just have been reading a little. Curious though, is my similar to a solent rig? Except that its in front of the Genoa and not behind it. | | | 07-08-2019, 06:59 | | Boat: Island Packet 38 | 07-08-2019, 07:38 | | Boat: Seafarer36c | . The Solent goes to a stemhead fitting. Pretty easy compared to adding fittings and back stays etc for a cutter rig. We have a fat 125% Genoa for the sail and a 100% jib on the Solent. I use a 3/8" fuzzy line for the Genoa so it rolls up easier. | | | 07-08-2019, 09:19 | | | will do after the conversion that she won't do now? It seems to me that Jim Cate, in his post above, damns with scant praise the solent rig on his rather sophisticated boat which was designed, AFAIK, with a Solent rig. And Jim has a lot of miles behind 'im :-) It seems to me that you should conduct a SERIOUS cost/benefit analysis in regard to your proposal. Gut feel sez that any post-conversion benefits in terms of the boat's behaviour under stress of (if that's what you are after) can be costlessly and effortlessly achieved via application of seamanship. And if the weather isn't stressful, then there is, of course, no case to be made for either a cutter or a Solent rig. You asked in another thread about techniques for coming alongside. I got started on a reply that turned out to be a very detailed elucidation of just what it is I do to get into and out of my VERY tight slip. Since these sorts of things become "second nature", applying strict analytical thought to the procedure has been interesting for me. If you are still interested, I'll see if I can complete it during the day. All the best TrentePieds | | | 07-08-2019, 10:15 | | | aft! But, you can have a double head rig, either permanent or to a removeable inner forestay on a hyfield lever. | | | 07-08-2019, 10:32 | | | 07-08-2019, 11:15 | | Boat: Sail & Power for over 35 years, experience cruising the Eastern Caribbean, Western Med, and more | like Comanche, Rambler 88, Scallywag, etc, and even the - multiple foresails are back in fashion. Not to mention the big multihulls (eg: Ultime class), although they tend to use the foresails separately, rather than in combination. But I'm not sure any of these would be described as either Cutter or Solent rigs | | | 07-08-2019, 11:32 | | Boat: J/42 | wind-range. Between that of the reefed genoa and the storm jib ranges. (I.e. those times when I roll-in the genoa to just a little flag and head for the barn.) If the were blowing 40 knots, then increased to the "storm jib" range, I cannot see myself going out there and changing sails! I did see somewhere that some sloops like mine did have such in the 70's (hoisted to the pole-lift bracket, without runners) but IDK if they were using them for the same thing. More likely, perhaps, some obsolete theory on getting an extra quarter-knot during a . | | | 07-08-2019, 11:42 | | | back relative to the total sail plan). | 07-08-2019, 11:46 | | Boat: Jeanneau SO DS 49 | . Rolling up the 135 and setting the 100 is easy and will point well. But 95% of the time they are just in the way and tacking is a lot of work. If it’s removable where do you store it? 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Solent (sailing rig) A solent [1] refers to a sail and rigging system on sailboats, typically sloops. Sailors, particularly British sailors, often refer to a 100% jib as a Solent, because its smaller size is preferable when sailing in the strong winds found in the Solent between the Isle of Wight and Britain.
The Solent RIG. The principal difference between a cutter staysail and a Solent jib is that, unless a hurricane is blowing, the staysail is not big enough to power a yacht upwind alone, but a Solent jib is a full size working jib. The sail area of the Kraken 50 Solent jib is 52.6 m2. If we cutter-rigged the K50, the staysail would be 25.5 m2.
In a previous blog, Upffront evaluated the pros and cons of a cutter rig as a popular bluewater cruising set up. Now, it's the turn of the solent rig. Like the cutter rig, the solent rig also utilises two headsails; the two different sized genoas sit close together, the second just behind the main forestay, unlike those on the cutter which sit ...
The Solent rig, also known as the 'Slutter rig', is arguably the perfect rig for short -handed, blue water cruising ( shown to right ). The rig can provide so many different combinations of sail form that the ideal profile is always available to suit wind strength and direction. Based on a sloop rig it has the advantage over ketch, yawl ...
A solent rig is traditionally called a slutter-a little bit sloop and a little bit cutter. This configuration features two large headsails mounted close together. The solent rig is good if you do a lot of downwind sailing. You can pole out both headsails and go wing-on-wing, with one headsail on the starboard side and one on the port side.
The Solent stay is an inner fore-stay that provides an alternative to the Sta-sail stay . Its benefits, similar to that of the Sta-sail Stay, are to provide an inner stay that can fly a smaller/ heavier headsail without having to unfurl, douse and change out the boats everyday headsail. The Solent stay is unique to the Sta-sail in that the stay ...
Plan also available with a deeper twin keel. Draft: 1.62 m / 5.31 ft.
In this Episode, Is a Solent Rig for everyone? Nope. But for us, it's a great configuration. Here's a video of us doing various sail changes through many poi...
solent rig 368. Sailing downwind, the two headsails set on the solent rig¿s stays help steady the boat and increase speed. Michael Hilbruner. Osprey is the first boat we've ever owned with a solent rig, that is, two headsails that are placed close together fore and aft and in line with one another. At deck level, a mere 21 inches separates ...
Cruising sailors once upon a time preferred such rigs, at least on larger cruising boats, because each separate sail requiring handling was smaller and thus more manageable. These days, however, by far the most popular rig for both racing and cruising sailboats is the simple sloop rig. This has a single mast supporting a single Marconi mainsail ...
Here at Upffront, we are aware that many people are searching for the perfect bluewater cruising set up. Two popular options for off-shore cruising are the cutter rig and the solent rig, both sporting their own pros and cons.
To define our terms, a solent rig is one with two headsails but, unlike a cutter, they are never used at the same time and the stays are much closer together. The inner headsail (solent) is cut for going upwind and is usually about the same size as the foretriangle with little or no overlap. And the outer sail is a genoa used for reaching ...
A Solent stay is a stay that sets between the mast and the forestay. It connects to the mast at a point that is only slightly below the existing backstay, and meets on the deck only slightly abaft of the existing forestay. Under such an arrangement, the mast requires no additional support. The existing backstay provides adequate tension to ...
Here at Upffront, we are aware that many people are searching for the perfect bluewater cruising set up. Two popular options for off-shore cruising are the cutter rig and the solent rig, both sporting their own pros and cons.
Whether you view it from the top down or the bottom up, a Solent rig needs to be carefully thought out, well-engineered, and strategically located. In addition to this overview of the project, our previous report the DIY Solent Stay or Inner Forestay offers more details and resources. Some sailors add a short bow sprit or U-shaped, tubular extension that includes a bobstay and supports the ...
The trick is knowing when to switch gears from the lightweight sail on the headstay and unwind or hank on the small jib that sets on the Solent stay. In either case, when the stay becomes a permanent fixture, the rig is better supported, but each tack or jibe of the larger headsail requires rolling it and unrolling it.
The Solent rig features a self-tacking headsail trimmed with a Hoyt jib boom flying on an inner stay up in the bow and a Code Zero tacked to the anchor roller/sprit. The cutter rig dispenses with the Code Zero in favor of a genoa flying from the same stay as the Solent rig's self-tacker, with a staysail set inside it, also on a Hoyt jib boom, as per the Estero. The thinking here is that in ...
For years the cutter rig has been extremely popular with offshore sailors, providing greater flexibility and easier sail handling than the sloop rig in varying wind and sea conditions. But look around any anchorage where offshore cruisers congregate and you'll notice that the solent rig is mounting a serious challenge to the cutter rig.
A Solent stay is not a cutter's inner forestay, which is farther aft and typically requires additional support in the form of running backstays or extra swept-back shrouds. This is one of the biggest attractions of a Solent rig: no extra standing rigging required.
The Solent is a beautiful stretch of water that lies between the south coast of England and the Isle of Wight. With its stunning coastline, picturesque harbours, and breath-taking views, the Solent is a sailing paradise. Sailing on the Solent either as an experienced sailor, or as a beginner taking lessons, offers an incredible and different ...
Krakens sport Solent rigs. The inner forestay, taken to the anchor well bulkhead, supports the rig and carries the staysail for windward work.
Short-handed sailing: The Solent Stay. Posted on June 26, 2012. In an earlier post I proposed a second stay, called a Solent Stay as a way to be able to deploy the correct sail for the conditions, without struggling with lowering the regular roller furling headsail. In this post I elaborate on the details of the stay and its component parts.
Hey guys, I am interested in adding a cutter or solent rig to my sloop for versatile of sail plan. I would be interested in hearing from owners who have added one or the other, and what were the costs