jarcat 6 catamaran

Jarcat Five and Jarcat Six

The JARCAT FIVE is a success in all respects including cost, weight, ease of construction, level ride, interior and cockpit space, and performance either under power or sail. There are over 200 JARCAT FIVES afloat, and this is strong evidence that the J5 is truely a great trailer sailer.

Both the JARCAT FIVE and JARCAT SIX have been designed for amateur construction, and the plans include simple instructions and plentiful drawings which are easily followed. You don't need any prior boat building experience to construct the JARCAT FIVE or JARCAT SIX designs. Although some builders have worked outdoors under a tarp, most build in a shed or garage. The JARCAT FIVE and JARCAT SIX are built in one piece so you should allow at least one metre all around plus a space to cut the plywood.

Building time varies considerably. A JARCAT FIVE could be built in 300 hours and a JARCAT SIX in 350 hours. A really high quality finish will take longer to achieve, and build times for experienced boatbuilders would be considerably less than those provided above. When your finished building, the JARCAT is easily handled under motor or sail, and the emphasis is on family enjoyment. A double berth of 4' width is included in the J5, along with two good quarter berths, galley and heads space plus lockers, usable foredeck with a good anchor locker.

The JARCAT SIX is a much larger T/S, though still light enough to trail behind cars with 1500cc or better engines. They are quick to rig and launch, and all sail controls are light and easy to use as befits a family boat. All berths on the Jarcat 6 are 2.4m long! The galley may include a stove/sink/table & cupboards. Headroom need only be enough to sit up on the bed. The entry hatch on the MK11 JARCAT 6 is partly over the hull which allows a small area of standing room!

JARCAT FIVE owners have mentioned 20knots plus under sail. This drops to around 5 knots to windward when tacking through 90 degrees. Under sail the J6 has bettered 20knots. You are likely to see 12knots in 15 knots of wind....sailing flat. Even to windward the JARCAT SIX can reach 12 knots.

The JARCAT SIX boasts the ability to carry a 25hp outboard for speeds up to 18knots! You would be surprised how handy that is. The suggested 8hp Tohatsu drove the J6 to 11 knots and the JARCAT FIVE to 13 knots. Alternatively a 3.5hp long shaft outboard is sufficient power. When travelling you may use the JARCAT FIVE or JARCAT SIX just as you would a caravan.

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2006 Jarcat Jarcat 6

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Rare Jarcat 6 catamaran sailboat for sale. This 19.5 foot (6 meter) long, 8.5 foot wide trailerable pocket cruising catamaran design is hugely popular in Australia, but are fairly rare here in the States (Google Jarcat 6). This boat is currently set up as a power catamaran with wheel steering and a 25 hp Nissan 4 stroke. However, I did sail it for several years and it comes with everything needed to sail.

Length: 19.5 feet Beam: 8.5 feet Draft: 13 inches board up

Boat could use a fresh coat of bottom paint (if you plan on keeping it in the water; bottom paint included), and the lexan windows could stand to be replaced. They’re weathertight, but are getting a bit sun glazed.

This is a very fun boat, that sails very well and is great for the shallow rivers and bays here in eastern North Carolina and Virginia. Very stable and roomy for its size, and you can run it right up to the beach and step off the front without getting your feet wet. Also much lighter then it looks, so it tows very easily. Asking $6000 and I’m open to reasonable offers, however the only trade I would consider is for a Hobie Tandem Island.

Equipment: -Mast, boom, and all standing and running rigging -Main sail and two head sails -Daggerboard and tandem kick-up rudders -25 hp Nissan 4 stroke outboard (could use a carb rebuild; one of the carbs won’t quite synch with the other two) -40 lb thrust trolling motor backup -Deep cycle house battery and separate starting battery -Memory foam full size mattress in weatherproof coverings, always stored indoors when not in use -Robust tandem axle trailer with boarding ladder on tongue

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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jarcat 6 catamaran

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• Condition: Used
• Make: Jarcat
• Model: Jarcat 6
• Type: Catamaran
• Location: Little River, South Carolina, United States

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For sale 2005 Jarcat 6 trailerable catamaran. Hull # 172 Built from plans marine ply with fiberglass over. The plans come with the boat. Very good condition. New wiring, new deep cycle battery, new interior and exterior lights. Large solar panel with charge controller keeps the battery topped up. New interior cushion foam and covers, 5 gallon fresh water with foot pump, SS sink. Bucket head with velcro stick up privacy curtain. Sleeps two in comfort. Two opening overhead hatches provide excellent ventilation, dual companionways. Lots of storage areas. Large cockpit. Retractable bimini. 6 hp Tohatsu long shaft 4-stroke outboard with new impeller and rebuilt carb. 5 gallon portable gas tank. Engine runs great, sips gas, about 1/3 gallon an hour. Boat is 20 feet long, 8'6” width, 15” draft board up and 3' board down. Legal to tow anywhere. Easy to launch on any ramp. Has mini keels. Kick up dual rudders. VHF, GPS and depth, horn, nav lights, running light, steaming light. Two main anchors with chain and rope in forward lockers and one small stern anchor. Aluminum mast and boom, sails in good condition. Life vests and coast guard approved flares all up to date. Lots of additional storage access from inside the cabin under the cockpit seats, big enough to sleep in. Dual axle galvanized trailer in very good condition was custom built for this boat. Lots of videos of these boats on u tube. Most of these Jarcats are sailing in Australian waters. Estimated weight of the boat and trailer is 2000 lbs. Boat is in the water at a local marina. Happy bidding!

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Waller TC 670 or Jarcat 6?

Discussion in ' Multihulls ' started by neomastino , Apr 3, 2008 .

neomastino Junior Member

Any experience with either of these designs? I had settled on the Jarcat, but then found the Waller design. The boat will be used mostly for two people. (Wife and I). The majority of use will be day sailing on inland lakes, with some use on Lake Michigan and Lake Erie. Our desire is just quiet cruising. We won't be in a hurry, so racing type performance isn't a consideration. We will overnight on the boat occasionally. Both appear to be equally trailerable. Ease of construction is a factor, although a mionor one. We're both experienced at building cedar strip kayaks, and wooden boat maintenance and repair. Maybe a list would be easier to understand than my rambling. Looking for: 1) Trailerable 2) Relatively easy set up and launch 3) Overnight accomodation for two (One berth, not separate small berths in the hulls) 4) Ability to handle the great lakes under reasonable weather conditions 5) Small outboard for aux. power 6) Suitable for single-handed sailing 7) Ease of construction (both appear to be fairly straight-forward) Which one & why? Other options in a trailerable cat? Thanks!  

masalai masalai

It appears you have made all the hard decisions so the "love it" one is left - ask your wife... If you are both undecided on only these two, go for the most visually appealing to you both - - - It is your boat and needs your love, commitment and attention...  

Thanks for the reply. We've been looking over photos and layouts. It looks like the Jarcat advantage is weight, as it is significantly lighter. The Waller design has a cabin layout that is more appealing to us. The cabin layout can be customized to some level. Can't say the that either is more visually appealing than the other, just different. Hopefully we can find completed boats of each design near us to look over before making a final decision. The Waller design has the mast set forward on the cabin, the Jarcat at the rear. Does either of these designs make it more or less easy to rig at the ramp?  

Both designs and designers have been around for some time and appear to have been proven by the test of time, I have no personal knowledge on either model... May I suggest you google each in turn to see what pops up... or email the designers explaining your cruising grounds and needs... There is a Jarkan for sale in Victoria Australia for about $6000 - - 5m trailer version on a trailer, to give you some idea... I accidently found it in one of Bob Orams http://www.boboramdesign.com.au/ links in "used catamaran google adverts" http://www.tradingpost.com.au/searc...ype_int_state_9_stpg_1_subs_Sail & Non-Power_  

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They have different biases Hello I have good friends who have a Waller and a 6. The Waller sails better but has a much higher CG. My friend built his out of Nomex which has made it very light. This is probably a mistake. I think the Waller would sail better than the Jarcat. The Jarcat is really designed to use the motor a fair bit and so has wide sterns. This reduces its performance in the light upwind stuff. Jarcats can really get up an go in flat water and breeze. My mate who has one regularly hits over 10 knots in it. He also knows a lot of guys who have flipped theirs. My mate with the Waller like the sit out seats. He doesn't sail without them. My advice would be to change a few things about the Jarcat if you go that route. From my perspective the foils are so small as to be very little use sailing - fine under power. The boats are hard to tack. I would put proper sailboat rudders on the thing and put two proper NACA 0012 daggerboards rather than the tiny plywood things they have. As well I would put a small inner forestay from about half mast height to the cabin brow for heavier wind work. I really don't like seeing Jarcat owners sailing around with large full jibs in big winds. Do what other boats do an go to a blade when the wind gets up. As an aside both my friends have to be prudent when the breeze blows up. The Waller sailor goes home when the sea breeze kicks in. My other mate was amazed when I let him go to leeward on my little 6 metre cat with much more beam. These boats will flip in normal sailing conditions if you are silly. I was in a race with Jarcats and monos. It was probably about 20knots and the monos (trailer sailers) weren't reefed. One Jarcat flipped. I turned up to say hello down here on Lake Macquarie and another flipped. I am probably a bad omen. They have since had two more Jarcat meetings and no one has flipped again (I think) Chris Ostlind does a nice little cat. he is on this forum a fair bit. cheers Phil Thompson  

Chris Ostlind Previous Member

Thanks Phil. You can see the article on the Gato Especial here: http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/08/designs/gato/index.htm That flipping thing is worrisome and it probably is due to not reefing the sail plan as soon as one should with a trailer legal fixed structure cat. Or, do as Phil suggests and drop that full genny and go to a blade jib. There is an answer to most of the issue for the inattentive sailor, and that is to buid the boat at a ten foot beam and be willing to pay the wide load permit fees annually... it would still be trailer legal on the highway. A ten foot beamed version of any of the boats mentioned would be wonderfully fun to sail in a wide latitide of conditions. You may wish to ask if that build option is available from the designers. Chris  

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Chris and Phil, thanks for the feedback. I'm still in the decision making mode, and don't plan on starting to build until fall/winter, so there is plenty of time for research. I agree, a 10' version would be much nicer to sail. The fees don't bother me, but the local restrictions and requirements make it a real hassle. ( Lights, banners, escort vehicles, etc.) At this point we plan on sticking to a pure trailerable design. The Jarcat and Waller designs appealed to us from and ease of building standpoint. The Gato Especial looks neat. From an appearance standpoint, I definitely like it better than the other two. However, it doesn't look like plans are yet available. We've also considered folding or demountable tris/cats, but set up time, complicated build and ease of trailering seem to be obstacles. We've looked at the Woods Wizard and Sango, but it looks like the trailering might be a pain. Some of the Kurt Hughes designs look promising, but may have long set up time. Who knows, maybe a trailer sailer doesn't make sense at all, and we should just look into finding a good marina on Lake MI and build a larger Cat.  

Better still, have a small plot at the lake to leave it on the hard on a "home-made" trailer - your lake change in retirement & a getaway cabin for now with a place to keep your boat...  

Chris, I sent you an email. I'd be very interested in plans for Gato. (Even study plans would be great if the regular plans aren't ready yet) After some discussion at home, it looks like it might just fit our needs perfectly. Jeff  

northerncat Senior Member

id go the jarcat, quicker to build, great to motor if you need to or have no wind and they sail pretty well to, id put real rudders and daggers on it though naca 12's sean  

Arbee Junior Member

PS A couple of others you might want to put on your list. http://www.f-boat.com/pages/trimarans/F-22.html http://www.foldingcats.com/ Cheers  

Seem to have lost my rather lengthy original reply. Have seen both boats up close and personal so my take is: If you want a roomy cruising cat for two and want to sail most of the time, build a Waller. If you want a multi-purpose family motor sailer that is a little easier to tow, rig and manage single handed, build a Jarcat. Both boats will require attention at about 15 knots if built to plan and for two people I suggest a Waller with jeefy reefing, lazy jacks and a built in sail bag would be hard to beat. I've seen the boat on Mike Waller's web site up close and it is one sexy looking beast. All the dimensions feel right everywhere and the central board/rudder makes it very responsive in comparison to the Jarcat. Happy to chat more about this, we have the same dilemma!  

Arbee said: ↑ Seem to have lost my rather lengthy original reply. Have seen both boats up close and personal so my take is: If you want a roomy cruising cat for two and want to sail most of the time, build a Waller. If you want a multi-purpose family motor sailer that is a little easier to tow, rig and manage single handed, build a Jarcat. Both boats will require attention at about 15 knots if built to plan and for two people I suggest a Waller with jeefy reefing, lazy jacks and a built in sail bag would be hard to beat. I've seen the boat on Mike Waller's web site up close and it is one sexy looking beast. All the dimensions feel right everywhere and the central board/rudder makes it very responsive in comparison to the Jarcat. Happy to chat more about this, we have the same dilemma! Click to expand...

Good luck with build. While I have the utmost respect for the Jarcat we have also settled on the Waller. I'm no handyman so will probably use a professional builder for all the clever stuff. I'll also stick strictly to plan as I think many builders fail to notice that clever designers have everything "that way" for a reason. Noticed some comments about stability earlier in the thread. While Jarcat owners note the Waller appears more tender (not surprising with narrower hulls, higher COG, more sail etc), Jarcats have flipped in events where Wallers have stayed on their feet. I suspect the extra weight and design features like the central board and rudder contribute significantly.  

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This is a Waller builder's site. I've had communication with Norm and he loves his boat. I believe this is the one mentioned in the thread about "champagne racing". He has the boat well set up and lots of weight down low re batteries and water tank. He says he has no problem with full sail until 20 knots. http://www.multihulldynamics.com/content.asp?c=Norm's%20Dream  

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