GRAMPIAN  23

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The Grampian 23 was not as successful a seller as had been anticipated with only about 300 being built starting in 1972. All hulls were built in Oakville, ON but some were fitted in Edenton, NC. While not many were made it remains a very popular boat today, especially with those wanting to trailer their boat.

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Grampian 23

The grampian 23 is a 23.25ft masthead sloop designed by alex mcgruer and built in fiberglass by grampian marine between 1971 and 1976., 450 units have been built..

The Grampian 23 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat. There is a very short water supply range.

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1973 Grampian G2-34

1973 Grampian G2-34

Yorktown, Virginia

Make Grampian

Model G2-34

Category Cruiser

Posted 3 Weeks Ago

The boat needs a good scrubbing, the Gelcoat is in good shape, no chalking noticed. The owner fixed a couple of soft spots in the cabin roof. Per the seller, the deck feels sturdy. The running gear is 2 years old and in very good shape. The seller asserts this boat is that you can go sailing in it right away, with no major issues. All of the things that need to be replaced and updated on a boat this age has been done. The current owner has put a lot of work into rejuvenating the interior with fresh paint, new cushions covers, and other details. There is less than 50 hours on the engine. There is no known mechanical issues. The kitchen has just recently been updated. All the standing rigging is new. Stock #234013 Center Cockpit sloop, all wiring, plumbing and power replaced! Grampian 34 center cockpit sloop G2-34 Grampian is an Oakville, Ontario Canadian company with a plant in NC Grampian Yachts were named after the Grampian Mountains of Scotland. A Charles Angle/Axel Schmidt design, the Grampian G2-34 is a roomy, long-range cruising yacht. The center cockpit provides a smooth, dry ride in rough weather and allows a private aft cabin for the owners of the ship. When Grampian went out of business in 1977, the molds for the 34-2 were sold, and a few more were built as the SEAFORTH 34. Owners Group: http://www.grampianowners.com/ The Grampian Story: https://youtu.be/KjEY8Z42YlYG2-34 The Grampian G2-34 is a perfect sailboat for the bay or coastal cruising. The mast is stepped on the cabin roof with a support pillar in the cabin. This is a very seaworthy design with a fin keel, skeg rudder, and 5170 lbs. of enclosed ballast. The double cabin design allows for cruising with kids or another couple. The front V-berths are kid-sized. Lots of storage space all throughout the boat, the hull is insulated with closed-cell foam panels. The dinette converts into a double berth. It has a relatively new 120 Genoa and the original jib. The main is rigged with 2 reef points and what appears to be an unused storm jib. With these and the heavy-duty rigging, you are ready for some stormy weather! The hull has been refinished, blisters repaired. 2 years ago the owner installed new wiring, lighting, plumbing, rigging, tanks (gas/waste/water), and batteries. Solid mechanically but could still use some cosmetic updates on the interior. It's ready to sail. Comes with an excellent Genoa, fair main (1-2 seasons left), like new storm jib. Full perimeter toe rail with holes for lines or blocks. Stern boarding ladder. Reason for selling is getting another project boat.

1973 Grampian 26

1973 Grampian 26

Bay St Louis, Mississippi

Category Sloop

This 26 footer has undergone major renovations and upgrades 2 years ago including bottom-job, re-sewing and repair of sails, and much more. Per the seller, the Engine, generator, and all electronics in good working condition. Stock #225600 Yall this 26 foot Sloop is Ready for some Fun in the Sun! Ready for some fun? This little beauty is! The 1973 Grampian 26 is a small recreational keelboat, monohull fiberglass, masthead sloop that is easy to maneuver and sail. At only 26' this little sloop is referred to and often called a "Big", small boat as she is much roomier than one would expect. Her two cabins and four berths sleep five. She is equipped with a low hour 15 HP outboard for docking and maneuvering, 2.5hp outboard, and a 2000 watt Honda generator. Additionally she also has an a/c, 30 gallons freshwater tank, an electric cooler, and propane cook-top along with a jet boil. To go along with all that she also has new batteries (2), battery charger, 3 bilge pumps and all the electronics needed for you to set sail. Yall this is a great boat and ready for adventure. Get that offer in today! Reason for selling is doesn't use.

26' Sailboat - Grampian Sloop with Dingy

26' Sailboat - Grampian Sloop with Dingy

White Pine, Michigan

Model Sloop

Category Cruiser Motorcycles

Length 26.0

Posted Over 1 Month

Fresh water, Lake Superior, good sailor, roomy cockpit and 6' headroom in cabin. Comes with 8hp Nissan outboard, gas tank, head, propane stove, 6 sails w/bags, grill, 2 anchors, 100' chain, 10.5 Sea Eagle dingy with oars, many extras.

Grampian 26

Grampian 26

Hertford, North Carolina

Year: 1970 Make: Grampian Model: Sailboat Length: 26' Beam: 8'4" Draft: 4'3" ENGINE: Outboard but not included at this price. Windows show signs of crazing. Hull below water line was stripped and replaced with epoxy in 1996. Interior wall paper is peeling. Outside teak needs refinishing. The following items are provided free of charge: VHF Radio, Depth Finder, Head, Life Jackets, Stove, Galley, Fire Extinguisher, Cushions, Ice Box, Galley Sink, Boom Vang, Swim Ladder, Self-Tailing Winches, Tiller, Rigging, Anchor, Mast, Genoa, Main Sail, Roller Furling. NORTH CAROLINA BOAT TITLE ITEM LOCATION: Marina - HERTFORD, NORTH CAROLINA 27944

1976 Grampian Marine 26

1976 Grampian Marine 26

Flagler Beach, Florida

Make Grampian Marine

1976 Grampian Marine 26, New -Tohatsu 6hp,autopilot,chart plotter.Sails in good condition V berth,head,galley,alcohol stove,fresh water tank,holding tank Marine radio,vhf,flat screen tv,inverter,shore power cordFull cockpit bimini $3000

1974 Grampian G26

1974 Grampian G26

Cincinnati, Ohio

1974 Grampian G26 Comfortable cruiser with quarters for 4 adults.  6 foot headroom. Enclosed head. Plenty of storage.  Tiller steer.  Furling system.  Sails in good condition.  All exterior wood was recently refinished.  No outboard motor.  Fixed keel.  There were over 1000 of these boats sold.  They were noted for their roomy cabins.  According to sailing magazine "the boat is fairly well balanced, stiff and can carry sail in a blow".  They were well built with Coastal Cruising in mind.  The G26 is comparable to the Cal 25 and the Pearson 26.  2004 Loadmaster trailer with slide out tongue for easier launching.  The trailer alone is worth over $3000.

1973 GRAMPIAN MARINE G 23

1973 GRAMPIAN MARINE G 23

Chesapeake City, Maryland

Make GRAMPIAN MARINE

Category Daysailer Sailboats

1973 GRAMPIAN MARINE G 23 1973 GRAMPIAN MARINE G 23, This is a project boat!!! The hull, decks, fitttings, standing rigging, mast, boom, & interior of boat are in very good condition, the KEEL HOWEVER IS RUSTED & CRACKED!!! (see photos) THIS IS ONE OF ONLY ABOUT 300 BOATS EVER BUILT OF THIS MODEL!!! GREAT TRAILER SAILER. NO MOTOR, NO TRAILER. AS IS NO EXCEPTIONS. BRING CASH LETS' TALK. Check out Mars Keels Canada on internet for replacement keel.

30' Grampian Sailboat For Sale $2500 obo

30' Grampian Sailboat For Sale $2500 obo

Baltimore, Maryland

30 Grampian sailboat, has inboard gas universal needs work, Boat could also use sprucing up, has outboard! I'm selling this for a friend so please only call if your seriously interested. Boat must be moved to another slip, However I may have a slip available in Baltimore where boat is located Thanks Aaron 301 three three eight three one seven nine....asking $1,900 obo

23 ft. Grampian 23 sailboat for project or parts w/ functional dbl-axle trailer

23 ft. Grampian 23 sailboat for project or parts w/ functional dbl-axle trailer

Hamlin, New York

I purchased this Grampian 23 as a project-boat and trailered it from Florida to New York several years ago. Based on distortion to the stanchions, bow pulpit and mast foot, I would guess that it was dismasted at some point. I have not had it in the water and cannot vouch for its structural integrity. The cockpit, deck and cabin top show some stress cracks and/or soft spots. The interior cabinetry, shelves and bulkheads are badly water-damaged from standing bilge water. Counter tops and berth tops seem solid. The floor boards are missing and need replacement. (Solid floor supports are provided.for installation) The keel has been sandblasted, faired and painted. Original shrouds and stays are included for reference and measurement only as all have broken strands and meat hooks.There is a standard rudder with original pintals and gudgeons.There is a mast, w/boom, and a handmade mast-foot w/ hinge This substantial trailer was converted to dbl. axle and modified to transport a fixed keel Grampian 23. It could be easily modified for other purposes. It needs at least two replacement tires. The lights have been updated and are in working condition. Local pickup only. Please contact me through ebay messages for answers to questions, further details. or if interested in boat and parts only.

1974 Glastron 14 Ft. Fiberglass Fishing Boat/Trailer

1974 Glastron 14 Ft. Fiberglass Fishing Boat/Trailer

Grampian, Pennsylvania

Package Includes: 9.9 HP Chrysler Motor, Minnkota trolling motor, fish finder, marine battery/case, gas tank, pr. of oars, and supply of life vests. We are selling this boat/trailer due to recently purchasing a friend's larger used fishing boat/trailer that met our family's needs . Everything was in working order the last time we took this boat out on a local lake in the Summer of 2013. Boat and trailer package being sold 'as is' . Will deliver within 60 mile radius of Grampian Pa location.

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bljones

Put this one on your list: Northern 25 Sailboat for sale - British Columbia Sailboats For Sale - Kijiji British Columbia Canada. Yeah, it's listed above your budget, but it never hurts to make an offer.  

CapnBones said: ... What kind of condition are the sails in? As far as a stove goes, we used a rail mount bbq to do everything for years and even now that I have a boat with a stove I still do most of my cooking on the bbq.... Click to expand...
MikeOReilly said: This being said, I would look for something slightly larger; in the 25-27 foot range. Standing head room, and enough space to stow a week's worth of clothes and food, mean the difference between camping with a boat, and living on a boat. It's not that you couldn't live with the small space (I bet you're campers/trippers, right?), but it will wear thin after a few days. Click to expand...
Faster said: Here's a YW search for PNW.. (Sail) Cruiser Boats For Sale The Grampian has a decent rep, a Columbia 26 might be more comfortable and better selection. If you're not too tall you may have headroom under the cabin house. The Northern 25 is a great suggestion, a Coronado 25 is another; too bad about the head requirement because a 26 Thunderbird might otherwise be the best sailing possibility for you and there are a lot of them around too.. good cockpit, lots of owner support and knowledge base. I'm not sure I'd be too tempted by the 30 Buccaneer on the link... something scary there. The Catalina 27, Hunter 25 and Tanzer 7.5 are all decent boats for our area. Click to expand...

CapnBones

For the price and the condition and amenities in the Gram I think it looks like a nice boat. What kind of condition are the sails in? As far as a stove goes, we used a rail mount bbq to do everything for years and even now that I have a boat with a stove I still do most of my cooking on the bbq. The size of the boat, even without roller furling is very manageable. Also it is a buyers market so figure you can knock em down under that asking price and that is just more money for you to modify how you please.  

MikeOReilly

Hi Pointy, I've never owned a Gramp 23, but am the owner of a Grampian 34 (currently for sale: www.elysian.ca ), and have been up close and personal with many other Gramp models. They are all tough, well built boats. Nothing fancy or prissy about them. Just solid and functional. This being said, I would look for something slightly larger; in the 25-27 foot range. Standing head room, and enough space to stow a week's worth of clothes and food, mean the difference between camping with a boat, and living on a boat. It's not that you couldn't live with the small space (I bet you're campers/trippers, right?), but it will wear thin after a few days. With your budget, and with today's market, there are boats in the 25-27 range available: Grampian 26, Northern 25, Mirage 26 ... lots more I'm sure.  

mstern

The Grampian was a good quality boat. If it has no soft spots on the deck, then I would say its a good buy. Your "cons" are not big deals. It will take less than a gallon to put on one coat of new bottom paint; less than two gallons if you need two coats. Assuming you will be using ablative multi-season paint (highly recommended), at about $150/gallon, its not a big cost. That stuff can be put right on top of any existing paint; no bottom job needed. Roller furling for a boat that size will run about $500 for the unit/foil, and another couple of hundred maybe to modify your existing sail. Some units may require that you replace the headstay if the length of the existing stay can't be adjusted to accomodate the furling unit; you may need a new, shorter, stay installed. This is the single best upgrade for single or shorthanded sailing you can do. Outboard engines on small sailboats are a crapshoot; if well-maintained, they can last for twenty years. Often, these types of engines get very light use. If I put 20 hours/season on my engine, that's a lot. I only use it to get in and out of the marina and out to the harbor. Two strokes have few moving parts to wear out and are more tolerant of mistakes and less than stellar maintenance than their four stroke cousins. You will find many people who consider the two stroke engine to be a plus in this purchase. No stove? Buy a Coleman camp stove for fifty bucks. Other boats in this price range that should be available: the Oday 23 and 25; the Catalina 22 and 25.  

MarkCK

It sounds like either the Grampian or the Columbia suits your needs. Although there are a lot of boats out there in this buyers market that will suit your specifications.  

Faster

Here's a YW search for PNW.. (Sail) Cruiser Boats For Sale The Grampian has a decent rep, a Columbia 26 might be more comfortable and better selection. If you're not too tall you may have headroom under the cabin house. The Northern 25 is a great suggestion, a Coronado 25 is another; too bad about the head requirement because a 26 Thunderbird might otherwise be the best sailing possibility for you and there are a lot of them around too.. good cockpit, lots of owner support and knowledge base. I'm not sure I'd be too tempted by the 30 Buccaneer on the link... something scary there. The Catalina 27, Hunter 25 and Tanzer 7.5 are all decent boats for our area.  

SloopJonB

Add the Grampian 26 to your list. Not going to win any beauty contests but has real standing headroom for over 6 footers. Port dinette is a squeeze for 4 but comfy for 2. Starboard galley is big enough to be useful and it has an enclosed head. Big cockpit and a cutout on the transom that makes the outboard a lot easier to use than most. I chartered one for 4 of us one summer and we spent several days in the islands on it - served very well for such a small boat. If one became a keeper, it could be fixed up and customized to be a very nice little boat.  

Ajax_MD

The Columbia 26 Mk II is not a re-hash of the Coronado 27. The C26 Mk II has iron ballast (just as an FYI). I owned a Coronado 25 for 2 years as my first boat and there are C26 Mk II's all around me. First- My little Coronado was built like a tank. I sailed it in 30 kts, and did overnight and beer can races in it. I took 9th out of 15 in the series as my first attempt as racing skipper. A Coronado's primary weakness is the hull/deck joint, which can be repaired. The Columbias are also tough, and well-built and there is an active Yahoo forum for them, that you might want to check out. Ok, so they're tough, but how well do they sail? Neither boat is a high performance machine. They don't sail super close to weather, but they're fairly stable. The underwater profile is very low-tech. The rigs are short, and they have short waterlines, so they aren't very quick. They have a low sail area to displacement ratio. These boats are mainly family weekender/short haul cruisers. If you can avoid buying the shoal draft version, you'll do better. Neither boat can be easily trailered. Both boats will be less expensive to maintain than a 30-35 footer. Overall, the two boats are very, very similar, and if you had to choose between the two (assuming similar condition and accessories), I'd go with the C26 Mk II because of the active forum and sailing association. You can get lots of help and ideas to make the boat nice, for less money. Even though I owned a Coronado and found it to be a tough little boat, I would still give an edge in quality to Columbia. Hope that helps.  

BubbleheadMd said: The Columbia 26 Mk II is not a re-hash of the Coronado 27. ... Hope that helps. Click to expand...

I think the Coronado rap for bad construction is mostly earned by the larger 35 CC.. and even they have their defenders. JSB is right about the G26... quite the upwind performer when properly handled, too. The Coronado you linked to looks in pretty nice shape, but the O/B does look like it's set up for regular use.. and it has an inboard??? hmmmmm. However if you can get the engine running it's a much better setup for rough conditions than any outboard on the transom on any boat. Anyhow for $5K nowadays you can certainly get more than 23 feet so no need to 'settle' for the G23 or the Crown 23. And if you and your family really take to this, or some free time opens up you're set for some real cruising - and it would be a shame to live in this area and not take advantage..  

Well I thought I'd post an update since I've now looked at both the Grampian 23 and the Coronado 27 . Grampian 23 thoughts/notes: - nice little boat, seemed quite sturdy - new keel bolts and the 9.9hp 2-stroke worked well - lots of accessories including an inflatable dingy and a full set of charts - very large inside considering it's length, but I didn't like the fact that the head was flush up against the V-berth - seemed very moist inside. I stuck my hand under the V-berth cushion and it came out soaking wet...yuck Coronado 27 thoughts/notes: - Seems very well kept, it's obvious the owner takes pride in it's upkeep - sails seem to be in good shape, plus it has a roller furling - VERY dry inside; cushions didn't seem moist in the slightest, and I think there might have been a few tablespoons of water in the bilge - Iron keel was completely redone (epoxy, paint, keel bolts) about 3yrs ago - bottom painted less than a year ago, zincs done - the interior is huge for a boat this size, as is the head - the deck is also huge! The owner says he routinely puts 3 or 4 lawn chairs on the deck when he has guests on board and I can believe it. The deck also seemed very solid; I weigh 225lbs and I couldn't feel any give - all of the stanchions are solid (first time I've seen this) - I really like the deck design; no more squeezing by the shrouds to get to the fore-deck - diesel exhaust elbow replaced a few years ago (apparently these are expensive) - new 3 blade prop - 2x brand new marine batteries Unfortunately the 8hp 2-stroke wouldn't start during our viewing, however I found out why he has it installed along with the inboard. The inboard is a 1985 Yanmar 8hp and the boat weighs 7000lbs. As a result the inboard only pushes it along at ~4kn, but with the IB+OB it does 6kn+. This is an issue as we have some very strong currents around here. Maybe not the most elegant solution, but it works. My wife and I both get good vibes from this boat. It's the first one where I didn't bother taking pictures or notes because I knew I'd be seeing it again.  

Pointy_End said: The inboard is a 1985 Yanmar 8hp and the boat weighs 7000lbs. As a result the inboard only pushes it along at ~4kn, but with the IB+OB it does 6kn+. This is an issue as we have some very strong currents around here. Maybe not the most elegant solution, but it works. My wife and I both get good vibes from this boat. It's the first one where I didn't bother taking pictures or notes because I knew I'd be seeing it again. Click to expand...

I am still trying to decide two things: between a smaller boat (about 23') and one about 27'. If about 23' then which has the nicer sailing characteristics of these two examples? I am looking at a Grampion 23 which is a bit over-priced but in good condition apparently. He is asking $2500 (C) without outboard, dinghy or BBQ. or more with those "bits". On the other hand, there is a Aquarius 23 which is ugly inside, but seems to have all the sailing parts and has a trailer. It would be more or less "camping" for a while. It is also cheap and has a centreboard. I quite like the idea of the c/b and being able to store the boat without a lot of expense. I will be trying quite hard to avoid hairy weather anyway. I did notice that the head in the Grampion is pretty snug to the head end of the forepeak berth and that could be bad for folk with noses. We would not get a lot of use in now, but that should increase later and make something bigger worthwhile then. The cabin on the Grampion being a bigger proportion of the boat than is common seems helpful for (sometimes) rainy West Coast conditions near Vancouver Island. Thanks for any comments.  

Thanks Loren. I have had a suggestion of a Haida from a friend too. It is an advantage that it was designed for that B.C. area. I will keep an eye out for one.  

For Arcb: That is very impressive on the family togetherness front. We did once fit 5 total, with 3 kids, into a borrowed 22', but it was a lot of work moving things around. Just two people should be a lot easier. The leaks in the rain sound like a bit of a puzzle. Thanks for the warning. I should try to look on a rainy day!  

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VESSEL REVIEW | Sinichka – Electric commuter boats designed for Russia’s Moskva River

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A series of three new electric monohull commuter ferries have already begun operational sailings on the Moskva River in the Russian capital Moscow.

Built by Russian shipyard Emperium, sister vessels Sinichka , Filka , and Presnya – all named after rivers in Moscow – are being operated by the Moscow Department of Transport and Road Infrastructure Development (Moscow Deptrans). They are the first units of a planned fleet of 20 vessels that will serve the capital city and other nearby communities. The new ferry system will be the water transport system to be operated on the Moskva River in 16 years.

Each vessel has a welded aluminium hull, an LOA of 21 metres, a beam of 6.2 metres, a draught of only 1.4 metres, a displacement of 40 tonnes, and capacity for 80 passengers plus two crewmembers. Seating is available for 42 passengers on each ferry, and the main cabins are also fitted with USB charging ports, wifi connectivity, tables, toilets, and space for bicycles and scooters. The cabin layout can be rearranged to allow the operator to adjust the distances between the seats and to install armrests of varying widths.

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An open upper deck is also accessible to passengers and is the only area on each ferry where smoking is allowed.

The ferries are all of modular construction with each ferry’s wheelhouse, main cabin, and other structural elements being built as complete, separate components. This enables the ferries to be easily dismantled for transport to anywhere in Russia by rail and then quickly re-assembled within seven days.

The ferries are also ice-capable. Recently completed operational trials on the Moskva showed that the vessels can also easily navigate under mild winter conditions with broken surface ice, though year-round operations are planned for the entire fleet.

The ferries are each fitted with 500kWh lithium iron phosphate battery packs that supply power to two 134kW motors. This configuration can deliver a maximum speed of 11.8 knots, a cruising speed of just under 10 knots, and a range of 150 kilometres.

Emperium said the transfer of rotation of electric motors to the propeller is carried out by direct drive. As a propulsion installation, a pulling rotary propeller-steering column with double screws is used. The installation of double pulling screws, with similar power, allows an operator to increase the efficiency of the propulsion system to deliver a slightly higher speed or to reduce energy consumption. This arrangement also provides the ferries with enhanced manoeuvrability necessary for navigating in close quarters.

The batteries themselves have projected service lives of 10 to 12 years and are fitted with safety features such as built-in fire extinguishers and gas vents. Quick-disconnect features allow the batteries to be easily removed for replacement or maintenance.

Some of our readers have expressed disquiet at our publication of reviews and articles describing new vessels from Russia. We at Baird Maritime can understand and sympathise with those views. However, despite the behaviour of the country’s leaders, we believe that the maritime world needs to learn of the latest developments in vessel design and construction there.

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Cruising the Moskva River: A short guide to boat trips in Russia’s capital

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There’s hardly a better way to absorb Moscow’s atmosphere than on a ship sailing up and down the Moskva River. While complicated ticketing, loud music and chilling winds might dampen the anticipated fun, this checklist will help you to enjoy the scenic views and not fall into common tourist traps.

How to find the right boat?

There are plenty of boats and selecting the right one might be challenging. The size of the boat should be your main criteria.

Plenty of small boats cruise the Moskva River, and the most vivid one is this yellow Lay’s-branded boat. Everyone who has ever visited Moscow probably has seen it.

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This option might leave a passenger disembarking partially deaf as the merciless Russian pop music blasts onboard. A free spirit, however, will find partying on such a vessel to be an unforgettable and authentic experience that’s almost a metaphor for life in modern Russia: too loud, and sometimes too welcoming. Tickets start at $13 (800 rubles) per person.

Bigger boats offer smoother sailing and tend to attract foreign visitors because of their distinct Soviet aura. Indeed, many of the older vessels must have seen better days. They are still afloat, however, and getting aboard is a unique ‘cultural’ experience. Sometimes the crew might offer lunch or dinner to passengers, but this option must be purchased with the ticket. Here is one such  option  offering dinner for $24 (1,490 rubles).

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If you want to travel in style, consider Flotilla Radisson. These large, modern vessels are quite posh, with a cozy restaurant and an attentive crew at your service. Even though the selection of wines and food is modest, these vessels are still much better than other boats.

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Surprisingly, the luxurious boats are priced rather modestly, and a single ticket goes for $17-$32 (1,100-2,000 rubles); also expect a reasonable restaurant bill on top.

How to buy tickets?

Women holding photos of ships promise huge discounts to “the young and beautiful,” and give personal invitations for river tours. They sound and look nice, but there’s a small catch: their ticket prices are usually more than those purchased online.

“We bought tickets from street hawkers for 900 rubles each, only to later discover that the other passengers bought their tickets twice as cheap!”  wrote  (in Russian) a disappointed Rostislav on a travel company website.

Nevertheless, buying from street hawkers has one considerable advantage: they personally escort you to the vessel so that you don’t waste time looking for the boat on your own.

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Prices start at $13 (800 rubles) for one ride, and for an additional $6.5 (400 rubles) you can purchase an unlimited number of tours on the same boat on any given day.

Flotilla Radisson has official ticket offices at Gorky Park and Hotel Ukraine, but they’re often sold out.

Buying online is an option that might save some cash. Websites such as  this   offer considerable discounts for tickets sold online. On a busy Friday night an online purchase might be the only chance to get a ticket on a Flotilla Radisson boat.

This  website  (in Russian) offers multiple options for short river cruises in and around the city center, including offbeat options such as ‘disco cruises’ and ‘children cruises.’ This other  website  sells tickets online, but doesn’t have an English version. The interface is intuitive, however.

Buying tickets online has its bad points, however. The most common is confusing which pier you should go to and missing your river tour.

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“I once bought tickets online to save with the discount that the website offered,” said Igor Shvarkin from Moscow. “The pier was initially marked as ‘Park Kultury,’ but when I arrived it wasn’t easy to find my boat because there were too many there. My guests had to walk a considerable distance before I finally found the vessel that accepted my tickets purchased online,” said the man.

There are two main boarding piers in the city center:  Hotel Ukraine  and  Park Kultury . Always take note of your particular berth when buying tickets online.

Where to sit onboard?

Even on a warm day, the headwind might be chilly for passengers on deck. Make sure you have warm clothes, or that the crew has blankets ready upon request.

The glass-encased hold makes the tour much more comfortable, but not at the expense of having an enjoyable experience.

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Getting off the boat requires preparation as well. Ideally, you should be able to disembark on any pier along the way. In reality, passengers never know where the boat’s captain will make the next stop. Street hawkers often tell passengers in advance where they’ll be able to disembark. If you buy tickets online then you’ll have to research it yourself.

There’s a chance that the captain won’t make any stops at all and will take you back to where the tour began, which is the case with Flotilla Radisson. The safest option is to automatically expect that you’ll return to the pier where you started.

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1973 Grampian G2-34

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Grampian 34 center cockpit sloop G2-34

Grampian is an Oakville, Ontario Canadian company with a plant in NC Grampian Yachts were named after the Grampian Mountains of Scotland.

A Charles Angle/Axel Schmidt design, the Grampian G2-34 is a roomy, long-range cruising yacht. The center cockpit provides a smooth, dry ride in rough weather and allows a private aft cabin for the owners of the ship. When Grampian went out of business in 1977, the molds for the 34-2 were sold, and a few more were built as the SEAFORTH 34. Owners Group: http://www.grampianowners.com/ The Grampian Story: https://youtu.be/KjEY8Z42YlYG2-34

The Grampian G2-34 is a perfect sailboat for the bay or coastal cruising. The mast is stepped on the cabin roof with a support pillar in the cabin. This is a very seaworthy design with a fin keel, skeg rudder, and 5170 lbs. of enclosed ballast.

The double cabin design allows for cruising with kids or another couple. The front V-berths are kid-sized. Lots of storage space all throughout the boat, the hull is insulated with closed-cell foam panels. The dinette converts into a double berth. It has a relatively new 120 Genoa and the original jib. The main is rigged with 2 reef points and what appears to be an unused storm jib. With these and the heavy-duty rigging, you are ready for some stormy weather!

The hull has been refinished, blisters repaired. 2 years ago the owner installed new wiring, lighting, plumbing, rigging, tanks (gas/waste/water), and batteries. Solid mechanically but could still use some cosmetic updates on the interior. It’s ready to sail. Comes with an excellent Genoa, fair main (1-2 seasons left), like new storm jib. Full perimeter toe rail with holes for lines or blocks. Stern boarding ladder.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Grampian built an ealier, and entirely different 34 based on the TRIANGLE 32. When Grampian went bankrupt in 1977, the molds for the 34-2 were sold, and few more were built elsewhere as the SEAFORTH 34.

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